First things first though, I don't have permission to use a lot of pictures that I have featured here, so I'm giving credit where credit is due:
Forrest Black
& Amelia G.
These are the people who should get a medal or something.
They are the greatest people who know what they're doing. They have
like 10 different websites they run and all of them are mainly goth (and
punk) oriented. I frequent a few of said websites, you be the judge
which. I've listed their email addresses below if you want to contact
them yourself. Please understand that these two get A LOT of e-mail.
Even if they can't respond individually to every single one, rest assured
that they do read them and how people feel about what they do gives them
the 'oomph' to keep doing it.
Amelia G: Amelia@BlueBlood.net
Forrest Black: Forrest@BlueBlood.net
The following pictures pictures with decriptions are what about goth chicks I dig. And I really don't give a shit that there's a difference between goth and punk, to me it's all about the word goth.![]()
How do you define Goth? This must be one of the most asked questions about Goth. It is also surrounded with the most amount of confusion, hype, and misinformation of any query pertaining to this particular subculture. This might take a while, so get comfy and let's take a peek at what Goth actually is...
Origins of Modern Gothic Culture

Goth
is actually much more than the sum of its parts, and, depending on who you ask,
you can get a bewildering array of contradictory answers, many of which are
valid parts of a much larger subculture. It is more than a label or description.
Goth is at once a lifestyle and a philosophy that has its roots firmly embedded
both in the historical past and the present.
The central Ideal that characterizes Goth is an almost compulsive drive towards creativity and self-expression that seeks to reach out and ensnare its audience using our current society's covert but deeply rooted fascination with all things dark and frightening. This act can be either subtle and seducing or nightmarishly terrifying, but it must play on what society secretly knows but can not acknowledge to itself about its duality. The mediums of self-expression and creation can be anything from a mode of dress to novels or music. Imagination and originality have always been key elements in Goth.
As a lifestyle, Goth is as diversified as its adherents. There really is no true unifying stereotype or dress code as it were. Not all Goths are depressed, nor do they all wear black, listen to the same music, or employ the same modes of self-expression. This tends to make Goth-spotting a little tricky and creates part of the tangled confusion over what it is to begin with, but this diversity also is one of the defining factors.
So how does one identify a real Goth if they are all so different? Now we reach part of the heart of the counterculture! You see, as mentioned earlier, one of Goth's defining characteristics is the need to take the underlying darkness that is in all of us and bring it into the light in such a way as we can recognize it as what it is-an integral part of all of us, for better or for worse.

To
better understand what Goth really is, it is essential to know where it came
from. It has been with us for much longer than the label we have given it. This
is a subculture that has appeared, flourished, then died, only to rise again in
many eras and in many societies. Its adherents have always been the young
intelligentsia, frustrated and bored by the parent culture. The parent cultures
were usually restrictive, highly stratified into rigid caste structures, and
intolerant of diversity in schools of art and thought. Because of this, nearly
every manifestation of this particular type of counter-culture was greeted with
suspicion, hostility, and sometimes active aggression on the part of its parent
culture. Only rarely was this brand of subculture welcomed and allowed to
flourish, as it was during the Italian Renaissance.
Goth, as we currently know it, has its roots in Western Europe and North America during the late seventies and early eighties. The counterculture was, and still is, dominated by dissatisfied youth hailing from the middle classes, which were at that time just entering a new period of prosperous stability. The children of these newly wealthy were left, unlike their parents, with a strong feeling of instability and lack of identity. They were unable to reconcile the new values their society was trying to impress upon them with their newly fragile sense of self. The tightening lines of social restructure were separating them from their accustomed peers in both the upper and lower classes.
Responding
to the confusion and theft of identity, a few of the brightest and most creative
children of these newly prosperous families began to create their own social
structure. It was a counter culture based on a synthesis of historical elements,
leaning heavily on dramatic traditions, philosophies, and schools of thought
such as were popular in Byronic England, World War Two Germany, and American
Beat. After spending some time with no real name for themselves many dubbed
themselves New Romantics while others just called themselves Deathers then
swiftly settled on Gothic as the counter culture grew and became more stable.
Always
more than a little bipolar in nature, Goth split into two distinct factions, one
Appolonian and the other Dionysan in its approach, by 1981 when it had reached
its peak. Each faction was a personification of the mixed fear and fascination
the Goths felt for the darker side of their parents' legacy of materialism,
elitism, and false sense of moral superiority. The difference lay in their ways
of expressing their sense of alienation and abandonment.
The more Appolonian faction were mainly concerned with the artistic and philosophical facets of Goth. They were, for the most part, fairly non confrontational in their means of self-expression. They were in most cases all but obsessed with the act of creation and the appreciation of literature, art and music. A number of them attempted to legitimize their subculture in the eyes of the parent culture with very little success. Because they were regarded as harmless, if morbid dreamers, they were tolerated.
The
more Dionysan faction of Goth passionately embraced the more hedonistic and
sometimes self-destructive facets of the movement. Their contributions to Goth
were more ephemeral and less easy to define in traditional terms as creativity,
but still were vibrant with the haunted, dark spirit of the counter culture.
Some of the more prominent Goth musicians and thinkers belonged to this faction.
Being more confrontational in their self-expression, they were regarded by the
parent culture as dangerous and undesirable.
The
modern stereotype of Goth is a twisted caricature of the more Dionysan faction
that captures its decadence and tendency towards self-destruction while entirely
missing its subtle artistry and depth, not to mention the entire point of Goth
as a whole.
By 1987, both factions of Goth had almost completely vanished, absorbed back into the parent culture as their members were forced to accept conformity to ensure individual survival as adults. A marginal percentage of the original Goth community were able to adapt to adult life remaining essentially and visibly true to themselves, while still managing to keep the income necessary to maintain the rising price of living in the style to which they had become accustomed. By this time, the new generation of disaffected youth had already begun to imitate what they perceived of the Dionysan Goths. They had embraced the dark and dangerous style of dress and felt that the lonely, arrogant music was written just for them. The stereotypical lifestyle was adventurous and daring enough to spark their already bored and world-weary imaginations.
The
"kindergothen" were met by rejection and almost knee-jerk disapproval by their
parent culture and the remainders of the Goth community alike with almost no
exceptions. Those few original Goths who tried to embrace the new groups were
usually met with cold hostility and anger by those who had already either been
rejected by others or had heard of the rejection. The schism between the Olde
School and the new was widened even more by the labels of "Poseur" and "Faux
Goth" that were bandied between the sides.
By the nineties, the artistry and philosophy that drove the Goth culture had
been by and large replaced with attitude, posturing and dress code. The few
remaining Olde School Goths and their protégés had gone underground and were not
a part of the new rise of Goth, refusing to have much to do with what they
considered shallow, inarticulate upstarts that paid to much attention to what
the media thought was Goth. They saw the new
Goth as little more than a group of
image driven drug addicts that had nothing better to offer than a dress code and
a bad attitude. The New School's opinions of the originals wasn't much better.
In the last few years, both Olde School and New have embraced the Internet. It has become both a medium for self-expression and a battleground between them. Oddly enough, the advent of easy access to the W3 has revealed in the New School an increased drive towards the creativity and self-expression that the Olde School Goths hold in such high esteem. The New School Goths, or Goffs as many of them have begun to call themselves, have become more like the originals than either side of the schism seems to wish to admit. Hopefully this trend will continue to thrive on the Web, bringing fresh blood and a new outlook to Goth's grasp on the dark undercurrents of our society's imagination. After all, the sweetest of flowers always did have a tendency to rise from the darkest and least savory of soils.
The above article it taken from here:
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